I have read they were sexually assaulted and that they werent. Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. People have tweeted at her about it and she's only liking comments. Way back at the start (when I thought this would be satisfying to follow cuz it would be solved fast) there was online talk of shunned Amish communities around Delphi that seemed to have some promise . did that go anywhere? R361 they were 15, not 5. On the other hand, his own family has said he is a monsterhis brother saying that he attempted to drown him as a young child. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. R480 DNA would easily tell who the father of that baby was. I WONDER why we could think this guy might possibly have been involved. R209 Leigh Kerr was supposed to come back and answer the highest voted questions that he hadnt gotten to last night. The last of these was in 1990, opposite Prowse. I had not even thought about the fact the guy could have gained weight! As of February, Leazenby said, investigators have received more than 50,000 tips. Has there been a profile of him by the FBI? Did anyone see the picture of a man with a standing next to a vehicle that matched a witness report? In the text, the man said that Abby was clothed and sitting up against a tree. The cops clearly fucked up the investigation in someway (obtaining evidence through legally inadmissible means). Was Valentines Day a trigger for the Delphi murders? DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims, R301, it's weird how so many crimes have these things that seem so incriminating, but aren't at all. My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. A. Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. The process is always working, comparing tips received about the Delphi murders with hundreds of other cases and tips. He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. and I'm leaving the joking behind. The source code for the WIKI 2 extension is being checked by specialists of the Mozilla Foundation, Google, and Apple. Didn't he force them to get in water at one point? Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. This is an app that is going to help so many people and change the perspective of crime, and hopefully solve cases and get arrests for many unsolved cases.. On facebook, he gives strong "Todd from vaguebooking" vibes. R178 He really needs to be pushed into an active volcano. I take it with a grain of salt. What I dont get is where was the phone? But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. Q. R474 They recently (1 mo ago?) Jesus. The Libby Abby subreddit has been locked and gone to private. Not even close. The glamorous blonde star shot to fame in 1982 when she starred in Lloyd Webber's hit musical Evita, taking over from Elaine Page. Leigh Kerrs new postings are contradictory to me - religious yet sexual tableau.. Hello and thank you for registering. The clip reveals a mans voice commanding someone down the hill. Authorities believe the photo and the voice belong to their only suspect in the Delphi murders. R446, the phone was factory reset 9 days after the murders. More than two years after the audio clip was released, Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter held a press conference to unveil a new composite sketch of the suspected killer. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. The killer could have worn gloves. R144, they documentary indicated that many were investigated and interviewed. This perp needs to be caught and fried. I think he has a lot of crap under that jacket. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. It is speculated he told the police "I"m fucked" because he recognized 1 or 2 of the girls after their murders as having been girls he catfished. If I were to tell you the person I was sitting next to on the bus on the way here, I would probably tell you their nose was small and their eyes were blue. Of course I say it could, but all of this is only a guess. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. But Leigh Kerr may also be a frustrated insider/outsider LE. Also, the she was hit in the head and never felt it sounds like wish fulfillment. R393 that's absurd. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. I don't think the cops have a clue who this guy is. Wow! Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. The official search had barely resumed when one of the search teams made a gruesome discovery. Here's the interview with Abby's mom that mentions her brothers texts. Somehow, the meth revenge killing is less horrifying than a random sadistic redneck preying on two kids in a crime of opportunity R219 No, hes popped up on the new sub, Today is the Day, sounding defensive and even fishier. Yes, this IS a very interesting thought/comment. His gait seemed slower and that of an older man. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. possible exit route of the killer(s)? You can find youtubes of the bridge and it makes you understand what it was really like. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. These would later be some of the only clues the police had at their disposal, and the enigmatic, blurred Delphi murders video continues to haunt the internet. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. One day, months later, the father took his young son out hunting on some land that bordered the land of the boyfriends, the son was looking through the scope of the rifle and noticed something across from them, the father went to look through the scope and was shot and killed. I mean if they weren't involved in murder and drug smuggling it shows that they pick and choose their cases. For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? R266-- I agree, that IS him. Died: April 11, 2002 (20 years Ago), HomeTown: London, England, United Kingdom. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. The killer may have been an 'enforcer' for someone to whom a parent owed a debt. One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. Copyright 2020 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Chadwell is such a great suspect, I bet it's him. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. I truly thought this was a crime of opportunity. Q. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. Too bad this pos hasn't. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. ", Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. He looks nothing like the guy. Its like Holden Caulfield observed, people always ruin things. Those trails at probably really pretty and fun for teens to hang out on (instead of being at home on their phones) but this asshole had to ruin that. I've thought about it repeatedly since it happened. Did one or more than one set of footprints lead searchers to the area where the girls were found? And the tattoo predates the murders, but it makes me think he'd stalked Libby. Unlike other old cases, they were not disposed of because Garnett had continued to appeal his conviction. train, but he is clearly guilty of another crime and i really hope they have some forensic evidence to tie him to the girls murders. I don't think that the fat guy and his dad are the actual killer(s). A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. Been lurking here for a while but am curious to ask this question. It's the ears. Some people are suspecting his creepy dad and the pressure on him is to turn his dad in. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. When they now began to answer his inquiries, he learned another reason why they had been so close-lipped. She took a photo of the old guy with her cell phone because he was acting odd. That tattoo made my blood freeze. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. Time outside, smoking, drinking have an effect. If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. Chadwell's brother says he's a monster and his step-father says he is capable of murder. No one really has a good idea of what he looks or sounds like. I think the most simple answer is it wouldn't help the public identify the perpetrator, LE wouldn't gain anything with it, but it could hurt the case. I thought I had accidentally hit the wrong setting on my surround sound tuner because the music was blaring and I couldn't hear the people speaking. My old and new rabbit holes were on the Beeks, Pat and Angel Br@wn and their little pickup, then Micah H, then pastor JDW. The semiliterate woman who posted on the sheriff's page saying her ex bf is the killer is probably just another bad lead, hence why her posts were deleted. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. Danny Rollins. that's hard to believe r295 as they were said to be posed. Jerry Holeman told A&E True Crime back in February that it's standard practice for his investigators to remain mum on such key details during ongoing investigations - particularly those that are considered high-profile. I hope Im wrong and this is the guy. Thats good I think. be no inquest because there were no suspicious circumstances. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? Abby responds, "Hmmm." Carter also said because they know where the man was walking on the bridge his walk is not natural because of the spacing between the ties and the deterioration in that area of the bridge. R382, they were 13 and 14 and in this day and age, yes you have to be super diligent with kids. That said, the writing style to me reads as a man in either law enforcement or law. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. The cops have nothing to go on and they're desperate for a suspect. Scream. In the past three years, only one person of interest has ever been named. . But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. Here is a local news broadcast showing the computer simulation of the bridge. While I understand the video makes it look like an older man, as others have indicated the bridge has very large gaps. The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. Chadwell's more in shape. Enough"? Please click here to register for free. The entire incident was recorded on Libby's phone. Who knows if it was the real Kokomo Pastor JDW. We dont know how far this person or persons might have walked through that area. They are also asking years later about whether anyone saw a car in a nearby parking lot. But, it still doesn't feel like he's the killer. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. Investigators withhold evidence from the public all the time to help determine if someone they suspect is actually guilty. Our investigators are still, on a daily basis, receiving information which can be looked into. A. We all are speculating because we know nothing except what has been released to the public, which is strangely very little. See full bio Born: Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. How would this case be handled from the beginning had there not been any audio/video of the person of interest? He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. You can bet money on one thing. It was only about a minute long and he just said he didn't do it. I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. That Abby was posed like a doll with her hands folded but not sure what that means. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. Per Leigh Kerr, the signatures included hair missing from both girls and their bodies posed in a relgious but also sexual way. environs. The "guys" and "down the hill" are two sentences spliced for release and in-between is gibberish. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. That was one of, if not the most, gruesome murder I have ever read about. You think they're completely different, but he's got the eyes and lips of one and the nose of the other. To say I have follow this case is an understatement. It was news. And these leakers and other insiders AFAIK any anon person claiming such status online is not to be taken seriously . that not true here? I think he said it was Libby's body that had a stake driven vertically through her abdomen. So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. I truly don't believe Libby was meeting him (or the "model") bc it sounded like she had to get her grandma's permission, her sister to drive, and her dad to pick them up. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. He used a gun. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. I bet those residents are furious and if they knew the name of a local guy, someone would go for him. That first composite sketch was created after police said they received information from witnesses who were in the area at the time Libby and Abby went missing. There were at least 2 deer tree stands near the crime scene. What evidence could they possibly have that is any different than other murders? She sent the photo to LE. Investigators have shared insight into what makes a good, solid tip. Several feet behind her, a blurry figure can be seen behind a tree off to the side of the trail. Q. He targeted only one of them, imo. [1] She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. I want that monster to pay for this. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. [quote] the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. . Thank you for the updates. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. Or would a VPN work to hide it? I mentioned it on that thread. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. Diabolical. R500 That's definitely weird. Actress. The reason I ask is that the murderer may have been interrupted before he could sexually assault them? R24 I would've thought the same but I read a case last year about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, I can't remember the full details and I wish I had bookmarked the info, the guy was either in the police or had connections to the police. I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. No one has inside info and the people posting on reddit are fucking creepy and disturbing. The jury of sex men and six women, however, accepted the pleas of Garnetts attorney and declined to sentence him to death. For the sake of argument, lets say they didnt know him. I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. "This is not two people speaking. He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. In this case, we gave out audio and photo evidence from [Germans] video to help locate [the perpetrator]. Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? LE has really messed up -- particularly waiting too long to release info. Its some lone poster who think one of the grandfathers or both of them did it. Regardless of whether it's a real person he's encountered or an image of some kind. Tia. Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. There is speculation that the old Bridge Guy was stalking the girls and trapped them by being behind them on the bridge, while the younger guy approached the girls from the other direction. R211, I think people do it for plausible deniability reasons, in case the person they're talking about happens across any accusations. Clearly this case is cold. At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. Video. Such a smart little girl. This is one that haunts me. Barely over 5ft tall? There's a reason they want to move you to another area. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. This is why I question that persons credibility. I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. 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